700$ for new desing

[daruma2000]

Well I have to agree to Dargre and Terentee, I have been working to change my site for a while, and I have to say that it is not easy at all, of course I am not an expert, on the contrary I am a real beginner but I can now really appreciate how much work needs to be put on a Clipshare template. Honestly if I had the budget I would pay not less than £2K as I believe would be a good amount if you a really looking for a unique and professional template. Of course if you are serious about your project....

by the way my site is www.dojotube.tv (of course it is not finished yet, lots of work still do put on)

[terenteee]

Originally Posted by aaa007

terentee,

what is the price for the "drop your" template?

It's not for sell, a unique template is made for 1 client.

[terenteee]

Originally Posted by Joe100

Lol well sorry terenteee I didn't mean anything against you, it's your work so yea you can charge what ever you want.

I always thought I knew enough to get by before, now I know why more than what I did when I first came here. I am currently working on a new template. A wise man once told me CSS and photoshop work isn't hard, when I got into it I found out how right he was. When I do finish my template I'll be sure to make other templates for other members

Joe, nobody says it is hard to learn some CSS + Photoshop. But make that as a professional, design cross browser compatibility, offer support for your services and you will see it's not so cheap to make things professional.

Some called experienced designers and programmers are designing ClipShare templates from 2007.. and no final results. Why? Try to find an answer..

Joe if you really are good in what you do, do not sell your services for cheap, this is not making you more successful. Professional coders and designers never post silly threads "I can do everything for a few bucks" - Most of the time smart customers are avoiding this kind of developers. Before acting like a pro try to offer services like a pro. Make a portfolio and improve your skills. After you reach that level try to make a living from a few bucks..

700 USD for a unique protemplate - I was sure the guy has no clue about what clipshare script is. Once I replayed his message, things confirmed..

Nothing much to say..

Regards

[phanatick]

TERENTEE, you are talking like you are a professional designer.. LOL and more LOL.. u cant tell the world that u are a professional designer becasuse you ARE NOT ..

EVIDENCE 1 AND 2
- http://www.clipsharethemes.com/VA/
- http://www.clipsharethemes.com/

You call both designs ¿PROFESSIONAL? WTF!!

They seems to be made by a newbie with photoshop + some bad css

Your best template is
- http://www.dropyourtalent.com/

And no one with some inteligence will pay $3000 for it... Are we crazy or what?

U talk about 2 month or 3 of work to change 66 templates.. LOL... ur templates can we made in 2 weeks because they are bad.. a REAL PROFESSIONAL design will cost $3000 , yeah, but not yours AND I AM NOT A DESIGNER, but i am professional webmaster and i've seen too much people like u, people like think that they are something that they arent, down to de real world and study some design tutorials.

Bye!

PS. Im not from english spoken country, so.. sorry for my mistakes!

[dargre]

Originally Posted by phanatick

U talk about 2 month or 3 of work to change 66 templates.. LOL... ur templates can we made in 2 weeks because they are bad..
PS. Im not from english spoken country, so.. sorry for my mistakes!

So I'd give you $5000 for professional clipshare template in 2 weeks,
But you won't do it - or you do a thing similar to your bullshit talking.
You are NOONE here, but on very first post you start from offending people that did a lot for Clipshare script and community.
If you suggest tutorials, I would also suggest a tutorial for you: GOOD MANNERS one.

[terenteee]

Originally Posted by phanatick

TERENTEE, you are talking like you are a professional designer.. LOL and more LOL.. u cant tell the world that u are a professional designer becasuse you ARE NOT ..

EVIDENCE 1 AND 2
- http://www.clipsharethemes.com/VA/
- http://www.clipsharethemes.com/

Another NEWBIE trying to act like a guru.
We are some people working from hard here and you are not one of them. I would suggest you to watch your mouth before posting offending stuff on the forums.

I design and program according to my client request. So if you don't enjoy my work feel free to close your browser. I have loads of work to do.. bye

[phanatick]

If you suggest tutorials, I would also suggest a tutorial for you: GOOD MANNERS one.

You are right, my vocabulary was not correct... There are many ways to tell something without offending, and I am so sorry.

So I'd give you $5000 for professional clipshare template in 2 weeks,

No, I am NOT designer, I told in my first post.

Another NEWBIE trying to act like a guru.

Newbie? I am not telling u what I have or what I do to make money, but I tell u something, I can tell u that ur designs are BAD because I have seen ALL ur work with clipshare, U have not seen nothing of my work, U act as a guru, not me.. and u are not a professional designer...

http://joolz.fr/folio/ <- HE IS A PROFESSIONAL DESIGNER
http://www.clipsharethemes.com/VA/ <- NOOB thinking is the guru of photoshop and web standards.

So if you don't enjoy my work feel free to close your browser. I have loads of work to do.. bye

I dont like to offend people for free, but I am reading ur posts this days and I hate u talk like u are god here when u are a normal designer like MAAANY others. This is the reason of my first post.

And let me tell u something terentree, I make more than $10.000 a month, dont call me newbie when u know NOTHING about me..

Dargre, I understand u defend terentee because I am new here and u both work and make money with this script, I just buyed clipshare and need a GOOD template, so i searched this forum and found this post where terentee talked toptube about professional desings bla bla bla when his ones are not professional, but this is my opinion and so i posted here because that.

I dont talk about ur work dargre, because i think is good, u have a good player, but this boy DONT work, FOR ME, like a professional, nothing more.

[dargre]

I'm sorry phanatick, but you are not right in your way of thinking.
Template is always individual case. Some people like one other need something completely different.
Designer (also programmer) mostly do what is expected by bigger part of community and not what individual person like.
Each designer, programmer knows very well that working on individual project is not a good business..

If you have own vision - you may always do it yourself, or find a coder+designer that will do the job according to your expectations.
But the problem is that if you are not able to do it yourself - it will be very hard to find one willing to do it for you with clipshare script.
Personally I wouldn't touch it even for $10.000 you mentioned.

BTW.
I respect all people same, those who pay thousands to me, but also those that are saying: $20 is too much for them.
So talking what someone earns doesn't impress me much. Seen too much in my pretty long ling life. This is not what men should be taling about...

[chris]

I don't think it's a case of price, as that is up to a designer to set and it's the choice of the client if they should go with the quote given.

Phanatick, i'm sure you have your own personal taste's as to what a design for one of your websites should look like, these taste's aren't shared universally and it's quite common to get clients asking for designs you would never dream of making.

An example of this is a site i designed for a client, it was modern, sleek, what i would call georgous it was made from the client brief. They then basically explained that they didn't want the gradients, shaping, shadows or image work and instead it ended up looking like my dad made it in 1990 - but my point is it's what the client wanted and unless the client is going to allow you freedom to design and set it up for usability then you have no other choice to follow what they want.

http://www.clipsharethemes.com/VA/ - is not my personal taste either but it's obviously some-ones because if someone can make a design like dropyourtalent (which i think is good) then why on earth would they make http://www.clipsharethemes.com/VA/ by choice.

This is why i do not do custom work much anymore because the worst thing is spending 3-4weeks coding a site into clipshare that looks like my mum discovered dreamweaver for the first time and made it in one day, but it's the clients choice and as a designer you respect that.

And when your a designer you have to do this sort of work until your work and style is recogisable by alot of people that they inturn come to you because they like your style and not because they want something designed in their person style of choice.

[phanatick]

So talking what someone earns doesn't impress me much. Seen too much in my pretty long ling life. This is not what men should be taling about...

I didnt want to impress anyone, I told this because He call me newbie, I think a newbie doesnt earn this money but i dont want to take that as a reference, because it is not, its true.

Dropyourtalent is a mid desing for me, it has very much things to change to be a professional design, but its good, true its true.

I only want to find a designer for my site, I searched this forum and readed this thread so I found terentee telling something like this..

I call myself a professional designer and coder when it comes to Clipshare.. You guys are not ready to invest in quality - you are either not informed or you are just looking for freebies

Yeah Joe.. I wait to see commercial templates made by you. My advice for you is to learn some coding, put some hard work in learning and after that come here and work for free. I wonder how can you make a living working for free..

And I hate people that truly act as a guru when he is a noob for me and even talk to people with advices so i told what i told in my latests posts, its all.

But for me, peace for all and rock and roll

I am searching a real good designer, we can pay good, but only for GOOD work..

Have a nice day you all, nice night here in spain!

Bye!