Script Partial Encoding / Domain locking ?

[Nachen]

Yeah.

Don't encode or callback anything, please.

Instead give only verified members access to the forums. Other guests and potential customers would only be available to access Announcements-, Bug Fixes / Addons / Mods- and Pre-Sale Questions-forum. Another suggestion is that you add one more forum; General or Community, where we members can post threads that doesn't match in the other forums.

But please don't encode/callback anything. 1/3 of the members seem to agree with me so far. Those who do piracy and succed with their site will probably regret it later. It's unethic to steal while going commercial & they might get future law infrigment. That's why I try to avoid piracy as much as possible, as long as it's not for private use .

I agree that we need more moderators and I would volunteer to be one of them, since the comming month or two I got plenty of computer-time.

[Crow]

Just letting Danny know that Clipshare v2.5 RC1 is already on warez sites..

[Nachen]

Originally Posted by Crow

Just letting Danny know that Clipshare v2.5 RC1 is already on warez sites..

What do you think started this debate? Xsteelwolf spread it out.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Nachen

What do you think started this debate? Xsteelwolf spread it out.

No idea, I'm still new here.

[Nachen]

Originally Posted by Crow

No idea, I'm still new here.

Ok, I see.

[TommyLee]

Originally Posted by Nachen

Yeah.

Don't encode or callback anything, please.

Instead give only verified members access to the forums. Other guests and potential customers would only be available to access Announcements-, Bug Fixes / Addons / Mods- and Pre-Sale Questions-forum. Another suggestion is that you add one more forum; General or Community, where we members can post threads that doesn't match in the other forums.

But please don't encode/callback anything. 1/3 of the members seem to agree with me so far. Those who do piracy and succed with their site will probably regret it later. It's unethic to steal while going commercial & they might get future law infrigment. That's why I try to avoid piracy as much as possible, as long as it's not for private use .

I agree that we need more moderators and I would volunteer to be one of them, since the comming month or two I got plenty of computer-time.

People have access to their client area which is where all the downloads are stored, there are more warez people like xsteelwolf that have access to a legit copy of Clip Share, only xsteelwolf was a dumbass and used the same name as he does on the forums to release the script - thats how he got caught.

I dont see any harm it causes to have a file encrypted, it saves the developers ALOT of money and it doesn't make people like me feel cheated.

Anyways how are you going to differenciate who has a legit copy, and who has a legit copy but is uploading to warez forums. Dont forget that the warez people recieve donations, they purchase scripts with the money the recieve and share with everybody else.

The script will not dramatically slow down if callbacks are implemented, a timeout function could always be implemented.

Im all for the script being encoded, there are hundreds of people using a warez version of this script, and as more features are introduced that number will grow = alot of money loss.

[Nachen]

TommyLee, you saying that don't have anything against callback-functions make me wanna strangle you with my computer mouse -.-

It's the most idiotic way to avoid warez since you are independent to scriptxperts.com or clip-share.com. I mean, we donna wanna feel that we can develop the site to a whole unique one feel independent with the work.
If callbacks are added in a some distriubution, removing them or selling this script would be my first action.

Encoding the script won't be good either, once again you will not feel independent - at all.

You can't stop pirazy, if they got their gloves on a script (it's enough with just knowing the adress). They can download it, decode the zend/ioncube code (there are many people who work with this and especially zend is easy to encode), finally they would null the script by removing callbacks - and we are off were we started.

As protection, I would like to see some difficultiness to prevent it to the mass.

1. Secure forums
2. Build up a installation-part where you need a valid key that only are valid once, once that's used you will have to wait 24h for a new one to arrive after request in your Clip-share Client Area. You could encode/callback this section if you like - since you only will remove it afterwards. It will confuse people and once again prevent it to the mass.
3. Hire someone that work with abuse reporting warez-threads in forums, sites that illegally use the script and stuff like that. This could be me ^^:P.

Even though I might feel scammed, seeing other people who haven't bought the script running it without no money loss I still feel honest, 100% clean and got nothing to hide. Mentally - I don't care, justice will take it's right sometime.

[CodyLoco]

This is a difficult debate. I for one am against any kind of domain locking and whatnot but honestly I'd prefer to see more money getting poured into Clip-Share from people actually buying the script so he could hire more programmers and more support staff! I'm gonna go green on encoding a core file, HOWEVER, ONLY IF YOU CAN DO IT WHERE WE DON'T LOOSE ANY EDITABILITY. Why don't you opt for some kind of a license file instead? I think that would be easier to control- just encode the license file itself instead of a major part of the script? That way if someone did release a copy of the script to warez it would be trackable by he license file? Just an idea that probably makes no sense...

[t.check]

No, it does. Partially .

Seriously, I think TONS of problems could be stamped out if we just had more moderation and forums locked to CLIENTS ONLY!

I also volunteer to be moderator. I will have tons of time, since the summer is coming up for me .

[nickthedude]

im kind of torn, as a guy who is a huge fan of torrents and not paying ridiculous amount for generally bad software (for my own private non-commercial use), i hate copy protection and stuff like that, however seeing that my company has bought and paid for the clip-share script i feel maybe we should protect it.

although t.checks point about locking down the forums is valid i think we, the community, may actually derive great benefit from the aggregation of the script, im sure there are people who have made valuable contributions to this forum, and inherently to the clipshare product itself, who have never purchased a license. so in that respect we may be missing out.

what about releasing a really bare bones version for free , so people can get into it, and then maybe decide to buy the real deal with some kind of copy protection built in. i know clip-share prob. wont like this, but it will most likely, in the not-so-long-term bring more profit and undoubtedly more exposure, while the increase in community voices and minds can only serve to improve the software exponentially.

i think everyone can agree you cant really "go big" without mucho bucks for servers, hosting and bandwidth (unless you have your own server and bandwidth(unlikely)), and at that point the investment in the "full monty" software will look like chump change and a no-brainer for legitimate commercial use.

then again maybe im just a sucker for open source.